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Nuclear Tap Nuclear Ind. Co. 0	Posted - 2015.04.09 03:38:20 - [1] - Quote Glathull wrote: Xylem Viliana wrote: im amazed that domi is alive. If I'm understanding the things correctly, it doesn't stay alive for very long. Yes, it seems he had lost 10 or more Dominixes, and probably will lost many more. to OP: BlackOps are suboptimal ships. If i'm undesrtanding your goal, you will get frustrated with the results. If you want to gank in null or lowsec, you will be much better with a few T3 cruisers (better tank, better speed and agility, and the same DPS than a BlackOps), or just set all your toons with CovertOps or Recons. The covert hot drop is not that effective, unless you do it with a gang of expert veterans, with proper intel and a few scouts. It seems that's not the case. You probably are tired of losing ships. Here a decent fitting for a low skill level Domi (612 DPS, target range of 109 km) : [Dominix, Dominix PVE Sniper low skill] Lowslots: Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Reactive Armor Hardener Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I Prototype Armor Thermic Hardener I Large Armor Repairer II Medslots: Large Micro Jump Drive Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Optimal Range Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Optimal Range Script Optical Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Script Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 400 Highslots: Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Thorium Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Thorium Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Thorium Charge L Rigs: Large Ionic Field Projector I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Drones: Caldari Navy Warden x5 Federation Navy Garde x5 Federation Navy Hobgoblin x5 About rigs: those rigs cost 15 milions, all 3! It is silly to not use it in a 200 milions ship! You just use the MJD to jump 100 km from the pirates, and kill them all woth ease! (SOrry for my bad english!)
Nuclear Tap Nuclear Ind. Co. 0	Posted - 2015.04.09 03:51:21 - [2] - Quote Nuclear Tap wrote: Glathull wrote: Xylem Viliana wrote: im amazed that domi is alive. If I'm understanding the things correctly, it doesn't stay alive for very long. Yes, it seems he had lost 10 or more Dominixes, and probably will lost many more. to OP: BlackOps are suboptimal ships. If i'm undesrtanding your goal, you will get frustrated with the results. If you want to gank in null or lowsec, you will be much better with a few T3 cruisers (better tank, better speed and agility, and the same DPS than a BlackOps), or just set all your toons with CovertOps or Recons. The covert hot drop is not that effective, unless you do it with a gang of expert veterans, with proper intel and a few scouts. It seems that's not the case. You probably are tired of losing ships. Here a decent fitting for a low skill level Domi (612 DPS, target range of 109 km) : [Dominix, Dominix PVE Sniper low skill] Lowslots: Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Drone Damage Amplifier I Reactive Armor Hardener Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I Prototype Armor Thermic Hardener I Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Medslots: Large Micro Jump Drive Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Optimal Range Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Optimal Range Script Optical Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Script Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 400 Highslots: Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Thorium Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Thorium Charge L 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Thorium Charge L Rigs: Large Ionic Field Projector I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Drones: Caldari Navy Warden x5 Federation Navy Garde x5 Federation Navy Hobgoblin x5 About rigs: those rigs cost 15 milions, all 3! It is silly to not use it in a 200 milions ship! You just use the MJD to jump 100 km from the pirates, and kill them all easily with Wardens! (Sorry for my bad english!) Edit: frigates take 4~5 minutos to travel 100 km (NPC frigates). Enoungh time to wipe them all with Wardens or Gardes. If they are the triggers, you just let them orbit you, kill every other rats, then change to light drones and kill them very fast.
Nuclear Tap Nuclear Ind. Co. 1	Posted - 2015.04.09 17:04:22 - [3] - Quote Veine Miromme wrote: Well thanks, but I'll try to explain the best about what happened when I come back from courts. As I said, this forum is about Missions & Complexes, not ship fitting, although some may be applied regarding it (Missions & Complexes)... I am trying to revise the loot procedures to solve related problems and calculate the difference in isk / hr or other parameter or factors. I have other questions, but they will be better left for other threads since there is already confusion permeating the thread. (Or attempts thereof.) Like I said, I am pretty busy. In accordance to your narrative, we are seeing serious issues of inefficiency in your game slyle. That's why all this tips. It may greatly improve your performance. However, directly answering your questions: 1) Loot procedures: during pocket cleaning with your main, you must click on one of the wrecks and save the waypoint in "corporate" in People and Places window. You must do this for every pocket of the mission. Then deliver the mission and complete it. A secondary character, preferably in a Noctis (or in other dedicated salvage ship) should go to each waypoint and loot + salvage. This is the best way to do it in your situation. With experience you can control both accounts at the same time, entering clean pockets with Noctis while you jump to the next pocket with the main char. After delivering the mission, the wrecks position cease to be Deadspace and become regular space, then you can warp to zero ton each wreck waypoint. 2) calculate isk / hour: You will need to change your fitting. Period. Because this seems to be your ultimate goal, everyone is giving fitting suggestions. Your play style seems so inefficient that your question about loot / salvage remained in the background, because if you change your fitting and style of playing, your profit will increase so much that abandon the wrecks and not salvage at all may perhaps make sense. Sorry for the bad english, and I hope this give some answers.

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